First of all - what does that mean in practical terms?
Surely the government can't stop existing completely, that's a crazy idea??!
I have no expectations of a full on wiping out of the state for all time, what I see coming down the pike for most of the western world is a dramatic reduction is the size and scope of the states powers and place in society. Ironically, this will also come when the power and reach of the state seems to increase beyond all measure overtly.
At some point soon in the UK/US/eurozone either people will go to withdraw their money from the bank at the end of the month and it won't be there, or they will succeed and it will be worthless due to inflation. This basically means that state workers (and everyone else) are not going to get paid.
The tertiary functions of the state - roads, police protection (i.e. the stuff they do to provide excuses for taxing everyone) hospitals, schools, welfare, benefits......this kind of stuff is going to have it's funding curtailed, stopped altogether or stolen by insiders.
And so those services will break down. But not as badly as one might think because it is the case that a lot of well meaning and indeed hardworking people are in those sectors. In extremis some nurses, teachers, policemen, doctors etc will roll in to work for free.
But not for long and not without a lot of shouting. The good news is that people actually want those things, so there will always be a market for them and always be a way of acquiring at least some measure of them.
The governments of the west are enormous and powered as much by inflation as by taxation. With the inflation mechanism effectively broken the government will have to cut back on what it does.
First order - looting for those who run the upper tier of the state. That's what this game is all about. Once the people "at the top" can't extract lots of wealth without a lot of risk, they'll bugger off overseas or retire or whatnot.
Second order - protecting the top tier and forcing the population. This is the troops on the street, the policemen who do what the top statists tell them, the army, the muscle of the state.
These will be the priority for the statists to keep going. As the inflation mechanism falters, expect them to try and get in resources in other ways - more taxes, more fines, more licences, more control, direct seizures of property with no recourse - everything they usually get up to, but on steroids.
Traditionally this has meant.....a really large land grabbing war but nuclear weapons have made such a war a pointless activity, there is no point in stealing several thousand square miles of radioactive crap while having to live in a bunker yourself forevermore.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Failed_state#Indicators_of_State_Vulnerability
Economic Indicators
6. Sharp and/or severe economic decline: measured by a progressive economic decline of the society as a whole (using: per capita income, GNP, debt, child mortality rates, poverty levels, business failures.) A sudden drop in commodity prices, trade revenue, foreign investment or debt payments. Collapse or devaluation of the national currency and a growth of hidden economies, including the drug trade, smuggling, and capital flight. Failure of the state to pay salaries of government employees and armed forces or to meet other financial obligations to its citizens, such as pension payments.[10]
7. Criminalization and/or delegitimisation of the state: endemic corruption or profiteering by ruling elites and resistance to transparency, accountability and political representation. Includes any widespread loss of popular confidence in state institutions and processes.[11]
8. Progressive deterioration of public services: a disappearance of basic state functions that serve the people, including failure to protect citizens from terrorism and violence and to provide essential services, such as health, education, sanitation, public transportation. Also using the state apparatus for agencies that serve the ruling elites, such as the security forces, presidential staff, central bank, diplomatic service, customs and collection agencies.
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The question I have been asked is "Do you think that state failure has been planned."
And my honest answer to that is I do not think so, but on my more tinfoil days I might be inclined to. I certainly think that the fallout has been planned for - witness the Uk's now prime minister Brown selling all the states gold to his banker chums when it was at it's lowest price in decades...
The problem that even the statists have is that using the state is a lot like riding a tiger, it might get you where you wanted to go but it's dangerous to get off once you arrive. Once a state is started, it's hard to stop the inevitable growth, levelling off and collapse.
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You predict state failure, but I suspect the state has the wherewithal to continue in most of the developed world, modern lasting state failures have only occured in Zaire and Somalia AFAIK.
In these places the state was quickly replaced by warlordism, what do you predict will replace it here?
I know you advocate Anarcho-Capitalism, but do you think it will evolve without a mass "education" programme?
(I know I slate you on HPC, but I'm genuinely interested in your theoretical perspective here, though I will almost certainly disagree with it.)
Oh, there is no chance of anarcho capitalism taking off after the current crisis.
None at all. The various things that need to be generally understood just aren't out there in the public consciousness.
Mini warlords?
Can't see it myself. Maybe the more organised crime folks will start larger empires, but there are already non state solutions to most problems such as crime in the sink estates and lower rent areas.
I expect them to expand. I also expect crime to spike and then fall like a rock as the general public learn that the solution to weapn crime isn't to ban weapons, it's to get armed.
The state will fail and be replaced with a much smaller state.
Expect fireworks!
Injin. Thank you for your response.
My thinking on the possibility of planned state failure revolves around fractional reserve banking and the implications of the system. The exponential nature of the system seems to necessitate collapse, a giant ponzi scheme or positive feedback loop if you like, which must have a limiting factor therefore guaranteeing its demise. When you then consider the system is run by the few who must realise its nature it points me towards a planned collapse. The next thought is why would the few already powerful elite want such a thing? The nature of such a collapse would provide a huge shock and fear element to the general populous thereby allowing all manner of draconian laws and power grabs to undertaken with little or no resistance.
Of course this conjecture but your thoughts would be of interest to me.
Regards
Time for an update Injin. What's your current take this debacle.
So Injin when is the book coming out with a collection of your thoughts? I'd definitely like to read it.
Injin, time for an update perhaps?
I'm worried about the prospect of fiscal problems too. However, if we manage to avoid any more overt financial disasters a bigger concern of mine is that the UK population become systematically ground down and forced into taking increasing cuts into the standard of living.
I would prefer for some sort of collapse to wake people up from their political slumber. But the next step is to have sensible debate and goods ideas focussed on the long term prosperity of the nation. At the moment its a joke.
Chefdave.
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Oh good, you're still posting then Injin.
I though this was you for a while...
http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/blotter/entries/2010/02/18/internet_note_posted_by_man_li.html?cxntcid=breaking_news
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